Re: freebsd-sparc64 Digest, Vol 750, Issue 3

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Re: freebsd-sparc64 Digest, Vol 750, Issue 3

ph4nt0m
Seems like a wastet to throw away an entire platform just because a repo is
screwed up.  Just fix it and repost the image.

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> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 06:46, Alex Ernst <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> > Thank you guys for the info.
> > I think it is confusing to provide stable official images for sparc64
> > packing amd64 repository into FreeBSD-12.1-RELEASE-sparc64-dvd1.iso.xz :)
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> Indeed, this is certainly not intentional, and quite undesirable. That
> said, I'm not sure there's a sensible remedy; deleting the image is
> likely our only option other than the status quo, and I'm not sure
> that having no image at all is better.
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> On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 04:42:35AM -0500, Ed Maste wrote:
> > I'm not sure that having no image at all is better.
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> There's no upgrade path, and no need to encourage new installs even of the
> existing bits.  I'd say delete it.
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Re: freebsd-sparc64 Digest, Vol 750, Issue 3

Mark Linimon-2
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 07:58:25AM -0500, ph4nt0m wrote:
> Seems like a waste to throw away an entire platform just because a
> repo is screwed up.  Just fix it and repost the image.

Removal of the platform has been discussed, in public, for at least
the last year.  There were no longer enough people who had time and
energy to fix ongoing problems with it.

The problem with the repo is a coincidence.

mcl
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Re: freebsd-sparc64 Digest, Vol 750, Issue 3

Jeremy Harton
Just so I understand, are we talking about no version of FreeBSD being
available for the the sparc64 platform or just zero support going forward?
That is will 11.x  and the whatever official repositories (source or
otherwise) continue to exist?  And for curiosity's sake is this a drop to
Tier 3 or a skip down to Tier 4?

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> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 07:58:25AM -0500, ph4nt0m wrote:
> > Seems like a waste to throw away an entire platform just because a
> > repo is screwed up.  Just fix it and repost the image.
>
> Removal of the platform has been discussed, in public, for at least
> the last year.  There were no longer enough people who had time and
> energy to fix ongoing problems with it.
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> The problem with the repo is a coincidence.
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> mcl
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Re: freebsd-sparc64 Digest, Vol 750, Issue 3

Ed Maste-2
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 17:07, Jeremy Harton <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Just so I understand, are we talking about no version of FreeBSD being
> available for the the sparc64 platform or just zero support going forward?
> That is will 11.x  and the whatever official repositories (source or
> otherwise) continue to exist?  And for curiosity's sake is this a drop to
> Tier 3 or a skip down to Tier 4?

Existing, non-broken 11.x and 12.x releases will not be removed. We
know packages on the 12.1 ISO image are incorrect; it's unclear if
that's the case on earlier releases too. There's no final decision on
how this will be handled, yet. I expect upcoming 11.x and 12.x
releases to include sparc64, and the ISO images will either be fixed
to include sparc64 packages, or will not include packages.

13.0 will not support sparc64 (Tier 4).
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