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Daniel Braniss-2
Hi,
the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run current :-)

cheers,
        danny

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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Warner Losh
Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?

Warner

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> Hi,
> the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run current
> :-)
>
> cheers,
>         danny
>
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Daniel Braniss-2


> On 12 Mar 2018, at 18:27, Warner Losh <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
>
no, but that was enough to do a grep and the run kldxref.

thanks,
        danny
PS: just remembered: reach out and grep someone

> Warner
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> Hi,
> the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run current :-)
>
> cheers,
>         danny
>
>

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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Edward Napierala
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FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see https://reviews.freebsd.org/D14534.

On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:

> Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
>
> Warner
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run current
> > :-)
> >
> > cheers,
> >         danny
> >
> >
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Warner Losh
I wonder why that isn't the default, or why the linker.hints isn't at least
created by the make installkernel step...

Warner

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see https://reviews.freebsd.org/
> D14534.
>
> On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:
> > Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
> >
> > Warner
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run
> current
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >         danny
> > >
> > >
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Edward Napierala
I think it's only needed for kernels that are cross-built.  That's due to
kldxref(8) being unable to handle kernels for other architectures.

2018-03-13 13:34 GMT+00:00 Warner Losh <[hidden email]>:

> I wonder why that isn't the default, or why the linker.hints isn't at least
> created by the make installkernel step...
>
> Warner
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała <
> [hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see https://reviews.freebsd.org/
> > D14534.
> >
> > On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
> > >
> > > Warner
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run
> > current
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > >         danny
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Daniel Braniss-2


> On 13 Mar 2018, at 19:12, Edward Napierala <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think it's only needed for kernels that are cross-built.  That's due to
> kldxref(8) being unable to handle kernels for other architectures.
>
my case exactly.

> 2018-03-13 13:34 GMT+00:00 Warner Losh <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
> I wonder why that isn't the default, or why the linker.hints isn't at least
> created by the make installkernel step...
>
> Warner
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
>
> > FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see https://reviews.freebsd.org/ <https://reviews.freebsd.org/>
> > D14534.
> >
> > On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
> > >
> > > Warner
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run
> > current
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > >         danny
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Warner Losh
Makes sense. I'd forgotten that kldxref can't do cross-platform stuff....
One could arrange to build it targeting arch X but running on the native
host and fix things that way. Nobody has care enough to do that, though
perhaps this gives us a use case for why one might want to try.

Warner

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>
>
> On 13 Mar 2018, at 19:12, Edward Napierala <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think it's only needed for kernels that are cross-built.  That's due to
> kldxref(8) being unable to handle kernels for other architectures.
>
> my case exactly.
>
> 2018-03-13 13:34 GMT+00:00 Warner Losh <[hidden email]>:
>
>> I wonder why that isn't the default, or why the linker.hints isn't at
>> least
>> created by the make installkernel step...
>>
>> Warner
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała <
>> [hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see https://reviews.freebsd.org/
>> > D14534.
>> >
>> > On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:
>> > > Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
>> > >
>> > > Warner
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > > the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run
>> > current
>> > > > :-)
>> > > >
>> > > > cheers,
>> > > >         danny
>> > > >
>> > > >
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Steve Wills-5
FWIW, I ran into this issue on an i386 image I built from an amd64 host
using poudriere and poudriere image.

Steve

On 03/13/2018 14:44, Warner Losh wrote:

> Makes sense. I'd forgotten that kldxref can't do cross-platform stuff....
> One could arrange to build it targeting arch X but running on the native
> host and fix things that way. Nobody has care enough to do that, though
> perhaps this gives us a use case for why one might want to try.
>
> Warner
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 19:12, Edward Napierala <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I think it's only needed for kernels that are cross-built.  That's due to
>> kldxref(8) being unable to handle kernels for other architectures.
>>
>> my case exactly.
>>
>> 2018-03-13 13:34 GMT+00:00 Warner Losh <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>> I wonder why that isn't the default, or why the linker.hints isn't at
>>> least
>>> created by the make installkernel step...
>>>
>>> Warner
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała <
>>> [hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see https://reviews.freebsd.org/
>>>> D14534.
>>>>
>>>> On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>>> Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
>>>>>
>>>>> Warner
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run
>>>> current
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>          danny
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Edward Napierala
Hm.  Perhaps we should make kldxref_enable default to YES by default
on all platforms, then?  The overhead is pretty much none when it has
nothing to do - it won't try to recreate the linker.hints if it already
exists.

2018-03-14 17:01 GMT+00:00 Steve Wills <[hidden email]>:

> FWIW, I ran into this issue on an i386 image I built from an amd64 host
> using poudriere and poudriere image.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 03/13/2018 14:44, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>> Makes sense. I'd forgotten that kldxref can't do cross-platform stuff....
>> One could arrange to build it targeting arch X but running on the native
>> host and fix things that way. Nobody has care enough to do that, though
>> perhaps this gives us a use case for why one might want to try.
>>
>> Warner
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 19:12, Edward Napierala <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it's only needed for kernels that are cross-built.  That's due to
>>> kldxref(8) being unable to handle kernels for other architectures.
>>>
>>> my case exactly.
>>>
>>> 2018-03-13 13:34 GMT+00:00 Warner Losh <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> I wonder why that isn't the default, or why the linker.hints isn't at
>>>> least
>>>> created by the make installkernel step...
>>>>
>>>> Warner
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see https://reviews.freebsd.org/
>>>>> D14534.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> current
>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>          danny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Warner Losh
I wouldn't. It make read-only root a pain in the back side.... Better to
fix kldxref to be a build tool that can cope.

And it isn't something that needs to be done on every boot.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Edward Napierala <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hm.  Perhaps we should make kldxref_enable default to YES by default
> on all platforms, then?  The overhead is pretty much none when it has
> nothing to do - it won't try to recreate the linker.hints if it already
> exists.
>
> 2018-03-14 17:01 GMT+00:00 Steve Wills <[hidden email]>:
>
>> FWIW, I ran into this issue on an i386 image I built from an amd64 host
>> using poudriere and poudriere image.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On 03/13/2018 14:44, Warner Losh wrote:
>>
>>> Makes sense. I'd forgotten that kldxref can't do cross-platform stuff....
>>> One could arrange to build it targeting arch X but running on the native
>>> host and fix things that way. Nobody has care enough to do that, though
>>> perhaps this gives us a use case for why one might want to try.
>>>
>>> Warner
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 19:12, Edward Napierala <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think it's only needed for kernels that are cross-built.  That's due
>>>> to
>>>> kldxref(8) being unable to handle kernels for other architectures.
>>>>
>>>> my case exactly.
>>>>
>>>> 2018-03-13 13:34 GMT+00:00 Warner Losh <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>> I wonder why that isn't the default, or why the linker.hints isn't at
>>>>> least
>>>>> created by the make installkernel step...
>>>>>
>>>>> Warner
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała <
>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see
>>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/
>>>>>> D14534.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>          danny
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Re: devdmatch: Can't read linker file.

Edward Napierala
While making kldxref(8) crossarch-capable would be the best solution,
it's also the most time consuming.  The kldxref rc script doesn't do
anything
if the linker.hints file already exists, so it shouldn't be much of a
problem.


2018-03-14 17:39 GMT+00:00 Warner Losh <[hidden email]>:

> I wouldn't. It make read-only root a pain in the back side.... Better to
> fix kldxref to be a build tool that can cope.
>
> And it isn't something that needs to be done on every boot.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Edward Napierala <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hm.  Perhaps we should make kldxref_enable default to YES by default
>> on all platforms, then?  The overhead is pretty much none when it has
>> nothing to do - it won't try to recreate the linker.hints if it already
>> exists.
>>
>> 2018-03-14 17:01 GMT+00:00 Steve Wills <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>> FWIW, I ran into this issue on an i386 image I built from an amd64 host
>>> using poudriere and poudriere image.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/13/2018 14:44, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>
>>>> Makes sense. I'd forgotten that kldxref can't do cross-platform
>>>> stuff....
>>>> One could arrange to build it targeting arch X but running on the native
>>>> host and fix things that way. Nobody has care enough to do that, though
>>>> perhaps this gives us a use case for why one might want to try.
>>>>
>>>> Warner
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Braniss <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 19:12, Edward Napierala <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's only needed for kernels that are cross-built.  That's due
>>>>> to
>>>>> kldxref(8) being unable to handle kernels for other architectures.
>>>>>
>>>>> my case exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-03-13 13:34 GMT+00:00 Warner Losh <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder why that isn't the default, or why the linker.hints isn't at
>>>>>> least
>>>>>> created by the make installkernel step...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW, it seems to be a common problem, see
>>>>>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/
>>>>>>> D14534.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 0312T1027, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, is there a /boot/kernel/linker.hints?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Daniel Braniss <
>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> the above i get on arm/nanopi-neo. (it’s the only platform I run
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>>>>          danny
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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